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how singers like Dave Grohl, Dan Reynolds, and others “scream-sing” without instantly losing their voice or coughing up a storm?

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459 utenti della rete avevano questa curiosità: Spiegami how singers like Dave Grohl, Dan Reynolds, and others “scream-sing” without instantly losing their voice or coughing up a storm?

How can they sing like this and continue into the next song in their set? Is there a secret to this kind of singing where there voice doesn’t go out right away?

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Most people think that this kind of vocal quality is achieved by tightening or constricting the vocal cords, because this is what comes naturally when screaming in anger or joy.

Even some singers who try the screaming style make this mistake and they do lose their voice and eventually damage their vocal cords permanently.

However, singers who do this expertly utilize a different technique.

The first step is typically to produce a powerful, clean voice first. This is not unlike normal power vocals.

The second step is to introduce just enough vocal distortion by way of several techniques, depending on the kind of screaming and which range it happens on. One technique for example is to utilize a technique similar to vocal fry and integrate that to the “clean” singing.

As one commenter has said, Melissa Cross has some videos that explain some examples of these techniques.

At the end of the day, the technique is not to “force” sound through “constricting” the vocal cords, but to add vocal distortion to an already powerful clean vocal performance by using more relaxed vocal cord techniques that produce the distortion effect.

Imagine your vocal cords as tiny, stretchy rubber bands inside your throat. When singers like Dave Grohl and Dan Reynolds “scream-sing,” they use a special technique to keep their vocal cords from getting hurt.

Instead of screaming loudly with a lot of force, they use controlled air and just the right amount of tension on their vocal cords to create that intense, raspy sound. It’s like when you blow up a balloon slowly—you control the air, and it doesn’t pop.

Also, they train their voices and practice a lot to build up the strength and endurance of their vocal cords. Think of it like training for a sport. The more they practice, the better their vocal cords get at handling the strain.

So, it’s not just screaming; it’s a skill that they’ve mastered over time. They take good care of their voices, stay hydrated, and warm up before performances to avoid hurting their vocal cords. That’s how they can scream-sing without damaging their voices too much.

There’s a vocal coach YouTube music reactor who has gone into a deep dive into the mechanics and techniques of how to do it. So far as she has stuck throat camera down a scream-singers throat

https://youtu.be/Ua8SuWNPrLE?si=eshHgFFtIkxG7ZGN

The zen of screaming by melissa cross. I watched it years ago and it showed randy blythe of Lamb of god using her warmup technique. Hes imo the best scream vocalist. Any suggestions for music similar to lamb of god would be appreciated, since spotify is ass at recommending new stuff

Since you mentioned Dave Grohl who very likely was either taught by Kurt how to sing like that or learned via his approximation to him, here’s an anecdote about Kurt:

Nevermind producer Bitch Vig setting up Kurt’s vocal microphone during recording of the album turned up all the attenuators on his desk, and lowered the gain as much as possible before Kurt began to sing, in anticipation of a massive loud voice. When he pressed record, he wasn’t getting a level. On playback, nothing had recorded. He was shocked to learn that Kurt was achieving these raspy screamy tones at what he called “whisper-level” volume. He has since worked with Dave and admitted Dave using the same technique. It should be noted however at least in Kurt’s case that he was not interested in technique, just making good sounds (it appears at though he stumbled upon correct technique) and often blew out his voice on tour.

The trick is (and you can find a lot more of this on r/singing) that to achieve the rasp one does not push harder to distort the note, but to relax the vocal chords and sing with compression so it distorts in a healthier way. Think about the half-assed noises one makes when they’re told to get out of bed with a hangover, where it sounds gravelly but still quiet (we call this vocal fry) or when someone lifts a heavy object and makes an accompanying noise from the belly (compression). It is absolutely a skill to marry these two techniques to create a healthy and sustainable rasp that can take years to pull off, and even longer to master.

Some notable examples of healthy rasp technique are M. Shadows of Avenged Sevenfold (throughout his entire career he has continued to have vocal lessons and training, even now.) And Kelley Jones of Stereophonics (a very relaxed singer resulting in a natural rasp in chest voice).

For resources on singing with this technique, see Chris Liepe and Ken Tamplin on YouTube. I quite enjoyed Rob Chapman’s vlogs on learning to sing with Ken Tamplin, as they’re a good example of what to expect going into singing, everyone has been given a different instrument and you cannot expect to sound exactly like your heroes, but you can still create a fantastic and enjoyable unique voice.

If this comment does well I’ll try and find a link to Butch talking about Kurt’s voice. It might be in the Rick Beato interview.